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This is about 2 football sets.     2022 Zenth and 2007 Ultra.    Which I have 3 players I need the Hobby set cards.

2022 Zenth base (hobby) Gold foil vs Retail Silver foil.  

2007 Ultra base (hobby) rainbow foil vs Retail Silver foil

Over several months I have contacted all of the members (several times) with these cards to have them verified if their card was in the correct set.

The Zenth card I need had 12 members showing FS/FT.  now it is down to 5 as 7 have replied and removed them.   The 5 have not replied yet.

The Ultra cards    one card had 5 but down to 2 which have not replied.  The other had 3 and down to 2 that has not replied.  Some members have thanked me for catching /ask about it.

This is not just here as I have purchased/traded for them on other sites and gotten the wrong ones also.   Yes I do ask if they are gold or silver foil and still get the wrong ones.

Sorry frustration got to me.  Hoping members that see this will correct their set if they have any of these cards listed.

Hi,

I'd pray if I were you, "20007 Ultra base (hobby) rainbow foil vs Retail Silver foil" issues... Quite some time to wait.

Try ebay or a card site to see if they are for sale there?

If you read my post.  I have purchased and traded for these cards from other sites before and gotten the wrong ones also.   I have asked and gotten the wrong ones. It appears these two set the sellers/traders just do not pay attention to which one it is.

Ultra basketball has the same flat/holofoil difference in that era.

I did not know this was a thing before I joined this site and logged my collection. Most people in the industry do not know this site exists. Most people would not be aware of the hobby/retail differences. Most people would not care.

Sounds like you have already contacted the people on here who didn't know and cared enough to check/change their cards.

What exactly can anyone say?

Your question is really, "how can I make the human race care more about a minor detail that is way more important to me than them?". If you find out the answer let me know!

You are really just playing the lottery purchasing cards until you hit the correct version!

(I have had some luck with sellers on Sportlots when looking for these sorts of variations, though as you have realised it can be hit and miss.)

This exactly:

Your question is really, "how can I make the human race care more about a minor detail that is way more important to me than them?"

 There are pros and cons, but COMC (almost always) shows you a scan of the exact card you're buying.

Frist off:   You cannot make anyone do something they do not want to do.  In my 76 years I have learned that a long time ago.   56 years of marriage.

My posting was in hopes members would take a look at these sets (if they have them) and verify.   One member contacted me, and he had the hobby and retail turned around and now have to change his collection, wants, and FS/FT lists.   He thanked me as he would have hated it, if he sent the wrong card out.

I'm down to 3 members for replies as 2 of the 5 replied and will change their cards shortly, (the zenith)

The Ultras I still have not gotten any verifications.  4 members

Yes I can buy and appears they (all 3) are on COMC.   My issue is I prefer to trade and help others out with their collection.  I also have gotten (more than once) the wrong cards even from COMC.  

I think this might be as big a frustration for me as anything in the hobby right now.  The hobby vs retail versions are very annoying.  If they distinguish them well, its not as bad but some of the companies seem to want to keep the public in the dark about the differences.  I really appreciate this site when they try to make it clear the difference but sometimes that information is hard to find.  Im with you on getting the wrong versions when buying or trading.  Frustration is an understatement.  I try to be understanding on it but its tough when you do your due diligence to try to prevent the mistakes.  Thats my rant.  Back to work. :)