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Solson7859
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Sunday, March 26, 2023 5:11 PM | |
Just wondering why this checklist is on here when sources indicate it was a back door set that one employee stole from his employer when he was supposed to destroy these cards?
Also, why does this set have the Mike Greenwell, Dave Winfield, Jesse Barfield & Ellis Burks cards listed when there are no photos anywhere on the internet that can prove that they actually exist? Just seems like they don’t exist or maybe only 1 copy might exist since I’ve physically seen photos of all of the other players on the internet for this set so that’s physical proof they actually exist. Also, it’s kind of weird that there is a sequence that exists for the cards released where it’s 1-4 seen & 4-6 you don’t see anywhere and then 7-10 seen but 11-12 don’t see anywhere out there. In my opinion, the cards not seen should be eliminated since there should be physical proof it exists besides one source that says it exists.
Also, I’ve seen proof that there are two distinct card layouts for each player that does exist for this set. For example, cards 1-4 exist in the purple to red format & yellow to green format while the 7-10 cards physically exist in the blue to purple format & the red to yellow format. So why why has that information been omitted & doesn’t include the variations listed for each player 1-4 & 7-10? Just weird that cards that this checklist exists on here when it was backdoored and shows cards that physically do exist but don’t list and others that physically don’t exist but do list.
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Ballparks96
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Monday, December 25, 2023 10:33 PM | |
I fully agree with Shane on this. If there is no evidence that these cards exist ANYWHERE (Burks, Greenwell, Winfield, Barfield), why are they included in the checklist? If they ever surface, they can always be added, but there seem to be none, and 1989 is now 35 years ago. I think the chances of these showing up is quite low.
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jacksoncoupage
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Monday, December 25, 2023 11:52 PM | |
Excellent points.
Be ready for "because crowd sourced"
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DaClyde
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Tuesday, December 26, 2023 5:26 AM | |
They are mainly listed because they were in the big books, and the checklist was expected to mirror the Grand Slammers set. There isn't much more to it than that. As to whether they should be listed? I'd be fine with at least removing the cards that have never been seen.
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vrooomed
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Tuesday, December 26, 2023 5:36 AM | |
If there are compelling reasons to remove cards, please enter the appropriate IRs to get the entries removed.
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cdorso
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Tuesday, December 26, 2023 7:40 AM | |
Considering both of my guys are in this set, I would LOVE to know that neither of their cards actually exist!
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vrooomed
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Tuesday, December 26, 2023 8:09 AM | |
Even if we remove certain players from our checklists here at this point in time, it doesn't prove that they don't exist. It just means that there is no solid evidence that they do.If a copy ever surfaces, then we'd be compelled to add it back.
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Statsnerd
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Tuesday, December 26, 2023 8:53 AM | |
Just asking the OP "when sources indicate" what or who are you referring to that brings you to this conclusion??
If there was a checklist printed. It should be safe to go with it as there is really no evidence it exists or does not exist. Me however I'm going to go search out a image to see what these cards look like.
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jimetal7212
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Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:06 AM | |
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Statsnerd
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