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FreehanSolo
Posts: 1,137
Joined: Nov 2017
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Friday, September 24, 2021 4:33 PM | |
Hi everybody,
Thanks to an observant member we're now aware of variations on the backs of '91 Ultra football base cards. The variation in question is the size of the Team NFL logo and football in the upper-left above the copyright notice:
This is an example of a "regular" base card. Here the NFL logo and football are around the same width as the "(C) 1991" line.
This is the same back but you can see that those logos are much larger, about the same width as the second copyright line, "Fleer Corp."
We know that every base card has a "small logo" version so what we're trying to determine is which of the base in the 300-card set have "large logo" variations.
I've created a Google sheet to track these and so far have found "large logo" VARs for a bit more than 1/3 of the set by looking at all available images on COMC and what's been submitted here.
Here's how you can help:
1. Take a look at this Google sheet. Any cards I couldn't verify that have large logo VARs have a yellow cell
2. Please look at copies of those cards that you have in your own collection or find them on other sources like eBay/Worthpoint, etc.
3. If you're able to find a large logo version, please mark an "X" in the "Large logo VAR?" column, your username, and where you found it (your own collection, eBay, etc.) so we know it's been verified
Once we've completed this research to the best of our ability, a few members will get together to create the variations for each version of the base cards.I'll also monitor this thread and try to reply to any questions people might have (aside from "Why are we doing this", of course).
Thank you in advance to anyone who's willing to assist! Crowdsourcing has made TCDB the undisputed best (IMO) source of checklists thanks to efforts like these.
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spikemg
Posts: 196
Joined: Mar 2017
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Friday, September 24, 2021 11:16 PM | |
I found a bunch more with the larger football. Some in my own collection and more on Ebay. I updated your Google sheet..
Mike
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vrooomed
Posts: 15,061
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Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:26 AM | |
Mike, thanks for the help on this. It is very much appreciated!
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FreehanSolo
Posts: 1,137
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Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:05 AM | |
Thanks, Mike! That gets us to around 200 which makes me more confident that all cards except the checklists have both versions, though we'll keep looking to make sure. I appreciate your help here, that made a big difference!
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spikemg
Posts: 196
Joined: Mar 2017
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Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:33 PM | |
No Probem.. I'll keep looking...
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unkilldoo
Posts: 356
Joined: Feb 2018
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Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:23 PM | |
Just a quick search of my NY Jets collection, turned up Card #'s 101,102,103,104,106 with the large logo. I will search further hopefully tomorrow.
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spazmatastic
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Saturday, September 25, 2021 11:23 PM | |
I checked all of my cards and came up with only 6 with the big logo, but all have been confirmed already.
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Mike9020
Posts: 68
Joined: Jul 2012
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Sunday, September 26, 2021 5:24 AM | |
Sorry but all of these cards in my collection are the small logo. They all came from packs in the same box so maybe not too surprising.
Thanks everyone
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jplcom
Posts: 15
Joined: May 2012
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Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:50 PM | |
I checked my personal collection and I can extra confirm 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 194, 206, 221, 230, 247, 261, 264, and 289. I have an unopened box of 1991 Fleer Ultra (item 555, black background, Ultra All Stars shown on front) that I can open tonight to see if I pull any.
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FreehanSolo
Posts: 1,137
Joined: Nov 2017
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Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:56 PM | |
I'm very happy with how many members have chipped in to help here so thanks to all! Looks like collectors of the following teams could make a big difference in terms of what's left: Steelers, Chargers, Seahawks, Falcons, Bears, Packers, Rams, Vikings, Redskins.
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