1996 Pacific Litho-Cel Football Forum

Tried to send this with pictures but your site wouldn't accept my pictures from my phone that I screenshot..

Just trying to get some friendly information about the 96 Pacific lithoproof cards and what's your PR 42 means on that listing I think it means the first 42 were embossed I just don't know what PR means and not a lot of people have information about these cards are even know what they have.. you have sn360 which obviously means serial numbered to 360 but just curious what PR means thank you. I have an Emmitt 35 of 360 and it's embossed.. I'll be glad to send you a picture for your inventory if you like.

Thank you Randy

PR means Print Run. The print run is 42, and the SN360 describes the stamp on the cards.

42 "Litho-Proof" cards were embossed to make up the "Litho-Proof Certified" set. They have a SN of 360 on them, but there are only 42 of each card. I'm not sure if it was the first 42 cards (SNs 1-42) or just 42 of them in general - I have little knowledge of football products. But there's your explanation for the definition of the Notes.

You can also get the definition of any Note used in a set by going to that set's Glossary on the left-hand side of the page.

I had asked Mike Cramer this specific question because I’ve seen cards embossed that were higher than 42, he basically said most of the lower numbered cards are stamped but that any of the 360 could be stamped.

Thanks so much that makes sense.. but there are 360 total cards I have seen many different players.. but as you say the first 42 were the only embossed ones.. I remember that from collecting in the '90s and I couldn't remember if it was the first 36 or first 42.. but after reading your post I'm letting you know there are 360 of those with the first 42 embossed and obviously much rarer and much more valuable. Thank you!

And I probably looked it over 200 of these cards and Neverr seen a stamped one that's under 42. If you have a picture please let me know or send our post.

Thanks so much that makes sense.. but there are 360 total cards I have seen many different players.. but as you say the first 42 were the only embossed ones.. I remember that from collecting in the '90s and I couldn't remember if it was the first 36 or first 42.. but after reading your post I'm letting you know there are 360 of those with the first 42 embossed and obviously much rarer and much more valuable. Thank you!

And I probably looked it over 200 of these cards and Neverr seen a stamped one that's under 42. If you have a picture please let me know or send our post.

FYI.. you can search and look at many of these on eBay. And blow the picture up but like I said I've only seen one in Boston and that was a bledsoe and I just remember it was under 42 numbered.

.I saw this discussion and can help clarify the Litho-Cel Proof set.

My information comes directly from the Pacific Trading Cards production records. “The Shannon Books” .

Pacific Litho-Cel Proofs

36 players were in the set. 360 serial numbered sets were made. The cards were seeded approximately 1 card per 4-5 boxes.

Of the 360 total serial numbered sets, 42 sets were stamped/embossed with the Pacific Crown Collection logo. The stamped cards were mostly low serial numbered cards but a few higher numbers were also stamped. These were seeded approximately one per case.

Hope this helps

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Thanks so much Mike that sounds awesome I know you have a lot of knowledge. Yeah I couldn't remember if it was 36 or 42 look like it should be 36 because 10% but I could remember the number 42 from the years I collected. So in any event maybe one day it'll get popular I have an Emmitt Smith 35 of 360 I wouldn't sell it for less than $200