1989 Topps Traded Baseball Forum

Why not listed as such. 

There is no cards of him listed inside the 1989 Topps set

The Score is a XRC so by logic this is either the RC or XRC. 

his only true rookies are bowman, fleer, donruss and the biggie Upper Deck I believe. Any card in an update set or such is an xrc

This is not listed XRC so it should be

Ken Griffey Jr has RC in 1989 base sets Upper Deck, Fleer, Donruss, Bowman. Update or Traded cards that come afterwards are not an XRC or RC since the RC is already established.

this is quite interesting

The score traded is marked as a XRC here and appears to be marked correctly from the XRC definition likes most cards in this set except Griffey and Johnson 

I'm reading this http://www.baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/XRC 

I also read that Beckett created this term to create a understanding of different type of Rookie Cards and that cards from a box set are considered XRC under Beckett rules and all competition of Becketts eventually followed suit. 

In today's reality a RC is not really for many players as most have 1st Bowman, minor league since those cards exist those are not true RC but the said player could have 50 cards out before his RC comes out but anything in a Box set or distribution by a dealer set would still be classified as XRC 

Exactly. XRCs come before RCs, not after.

I know I'm tilting at windmills, but I wish there was some grand overarching consistent rule instead of caving to the industry's whims at the time.  For baseball, we treat as above and then in 1990 the rule goes away and  magically Topps Traded are RCs.  And for football same year as above, 1989, Aikman, Barry, and Deion's Topps Traded are RCs despite the existence of Pro Set and Score.  Don't expect an explanation, just venting.

I agree. It is like talking to windmills. All the 1989 football cards are RC from the very same year type from Topps but somehow people have this brainwashing that the baseball Johnson, deion Sanders, and Griffey Jr are not RC. According to logic of  rules it is. 

felldownawell wrote:

I know I'm tilting at windmills, but I wish there was some grand overarching consistent rule instead of caving to the industry's whims at the time.  For baseball, we treat as above and then in 1990 the rule goes away and  magically Topps Traded are RCs.  And for football same year as above, 1989, Aikman, Barry, and Deion's Topps Traded are RCs despite the existence of Pro Set and Score.  Don't expect an explanation, just venting.

For the record, 1990 Topps Traded cards were also available in packs, (from 1981-1989 they were only available is factory set form), which was one of the criteria for the differentiation between "XRC" and "RC". This is why the "magic" happens in 1990.

XRC should only be used in the instance where the player appears in one of these factory-set only releases and didn't have a major release before that. If you look, you'll notice that the 1982 Topps Traded Ripken does NOT have XRC since he had RCs in 1982 Donruss, Fleer, and a shared Topps card. Griffey appears in Bowman, Donruss, Fleer, & UD in their base sets in 1989 - his RCs. Score and Topps both missed the boat and included him in their traded sets - only avalable as factory sets - no RC, no XRC.